will certainly be the tuber rallying cry long before witness location is publicized, plume data presented or VDP and MDA considerations are resolved, but that's just how everyone rolls in pursuit of views and outrage these days. Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. They won't believe it if NTSB doesn't blame the impossible to overcome steam cloud in the final a couple of years hence. "It's not a minimums bust if you have any of the required runway elements in sight before you descend. At the processing plant she is less than 1/2 mile out and should have the runway in sight and been scanning between the avionics and outside. GMAFB.And insulting me (or trying to) doesn't speak to the weakness of my position, but rather the weakness of yours. It may have been mentioned earlier, but the leading edge of the left gear leg looks crushed. The "what happened" seems evident, but "why it happened" is unknown and will likely remain that way. I'm guessing she was tired and flying in bad conditions, with a wall of steam from those chimneys and a roof cleared of snow by heat, and she mistook the roof for the extended threshold. "The silos were within TERPS requirements. It would be interesting to know if the FAA recommended to the plant that they voluntarily add a lighting system to that tall chimney or stack. Witness who was close by said the 208 descended out of the clouds and immediately flew into the steam seconds before hitting the tower. Previous day, the aircraft had to divert to Twin Falls. Her distraught father, Jim Bob Infanger (right), has said " Brittney knew the area well and flew to Burley International Airport all the time". Even a small city is a maze of confusing lights at night. I remember reading a story about a pilot who ditched in the ocean just off shore from a beach, maybe 20-30 yards out, and walked away uninjured. Nothing was cut. I can see someone trying to land on the roof of that factory, confusing it for the extended threshold of the runway in the bad conditions. Average descent angle was 9.2 degrees, or a loss of 350' in those last seconds, but the approach seemed unstable from JAMID. I have never heard of a Caravan having enough turbulence to unport the fuel and cause a flameout.Thoughts? In any case, one shouldn't have to look up obstacles in a database and do trig on them to brief a plate. Here are BYI and TWF METARs from that decision time:KBYI 131355Z AUTO 20005KT 6SM -SN BR FEW019 BKN026 OVC033 M03/M06 A2996KTWF 131353Z 24008KT 10SM BKN060 BKN075 OVC095 M02/M06 A2997(That decision to descend for BYI on the accident day didn't have the gusty wind, 1000' broken and one mile visibility conditions of the divert to TWF decision on the previous day)Visibility degraded during descent for the first BYI approach attempt:KBYI 131401Z AUTO 20008KT 2 1/2SM -SN BR BKN026 OVC033 M03/M05 A2996KBYI 131405Z AUTO 20008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN026 OVC035 M03/M06 A2996KBYI 131410Z AUTO 19008KT 1SM -SN BR BKN023 OVC028 M03/M05 A2996KBYI 131415Z AUTO 20008KT 1SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997Conditions while circling back around for another try:KBYI 131420Z AUTO 20007KT 1SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC026 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131425Z AUTO 20008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997KBYI 131430Z AUTO 20007KT 2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997(Crash was at 14:32 Z)(The above information was offered to show reports from the BYI automatic weather system for the full period covering the initial descent decision through to the crash at 14:32 Z. I bet that last moment of reality was shocking. But to go below the MDA prior to 1.1 miles from the runway kinda busts the approach. The 200 nm flight was to be VFR, no flight plan, at 5,500 feet. https://gemairflights.com/. Easy enough to black out signatures.Was he given permission to take that marker light?You wouldn't think that an expert would expect a strobe light instead of the red marker to be placed that close to the airport, given the easy to find advisory circular guidance, as noted in a previous comment:http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.html?showComment=1650238952384#c1446716018867091538. But I don't find it baffling that a 95-year-old would not survive the accident. I just read it and yikes! . Kathryn S Report Cessna 320d Executive Skyknight N320mf Registered And Operated By Gv Air Inc Fatal Accident Occurred June 28 2018 In Fairfield Utah County Utah Remember to embrace and treasure every moment, just as she did. The pilot initially replied negative, then subsequently replied that she had crossed the fix. The crash occurred just after takeoff around 1135 am. A few corrections:1. "Same document, regarding high intensity flashing white obstruction lights during daytime with automatically selected reduced intensities for twilight and nighttime operations:"should not be recommended on structures 500 feet (153m) AGL or less unless an FAA aeronautical study shows otherwise."https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC%2070%207460-1K.pdf. suppose that building had been painted with a bold pattern and say a big potato image - no chance of mistaking that for a runway. The decision to divert was made before descending from cruise altitude. This is probably why the pilot decided to continue the approach"The eye witness account does not agree with your theory. Kathryn s Report Cessna 525C Citation CJ4 N614SB Fatal May 13th, 2018 - Cessna 525C Citation . Warm Springs Police Chief Bill Elliott said the Warm Springs Dispatch Center received a report around 2:30 p.m. from Seattle Air Traffic Control of the possible plane crash in the area of the . LINKS:Kathryn's Report: http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/10/fatal-accident-occurred-october-11-2021.html#comment-formVasAviation: https://www.youtube.com/w. Survivors. On February 2, 2021, at 1744 central standard time, a Cessna 182Q airplane, N4765N, was destroyed when it was involved in an accident near Hackberry, Louisiana. AD Compliance Report April 2022. Yes,you are right, I did a copy and paste and wanted to refresh myself on comments on icing perhaps being a factor which I didn't know could happen in light snow. Not exactly the type of volume that would create "a concentrated convective cell storm." I can't admire anyone for being in a GA aircraft at 95 years old. Former Santa Monica Mayor Rex Minter died when a small plane crashed on the beach just south of the Santa Monica Pier Thursday afternoon, officials confirmed. Really, really nice woman and safe pilot, Pilot's father says she flew to this airport all the time and was well aware of any obstacles. Peace. Just be honest you go below MIN at uncontrolled who would know about it? VIDEO! A wing collided with a tractor trailer, causing the aircraft to overturn into a tree line next to the road. Although Brittney passed away young, her adventurous, loving spirit led to an abundant life. You make a good point regarding the stacks based upon Google maps. "Those stacks were well outside where any airplane should ever find itself. He later served as city attorney for Arcadia and a judge for the Los Angeles County Superior Court. Here is. I totally agree with you. Comments upthread didn't draw insults to the suggestion that N928JP may have experienced diminishing lift due to contamination accumulation on flight surfaces that built up during two approach attempts in light snow and mist.This part of what you wrote seemed odd, however:"Ice on the rotor and starter blades"Turbine engines have sets of rotor and stator blades. Your nonsense responses like "false" with zero explanation demonstrates that you have no actual idea what TERPS, an obstacle clearance surface, and approach minimums are. The four Gossner Foods elevators are not on the plate or in the database. Once, when flying with her sister, they looked out at the mountains, trees, and clouds, marveling at the beauty. )Here are those two points, with map-pinned locations, measured distance between them and difference in raw reported altitude:Data and mapping at the edge of the Gem building:Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857Call this Data Point "A" and google map pin it:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5520+-113.7592Data and mapping at 21 seconds and 2,650 feet horizontal distance before reaching the Gem building's edge and 300 feet higher:Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 216 81 93 4,450 -750Call this Data Point "B" and google map pin it:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5578+-113.7532Determine angle using rise run:Rise: -300 feetRun: 2,650 feetFlown descent angle between final two data points = -6.5Now, repeat the calculation from JAMID to "B":First, find JAMID coordinates from FAA database:JAMID location coordinates: 42-33-59.2100N 113-44-39.3500WJAMID location converted to decimal: 42.566447, -113.744264Map pin the location of JAMID:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.566447+-113.744264Choose nearest ADS-B data point to JAMID from FA track log:Wed 10:31:37 AM 42.5669 -113.7437 216 103 119 4,750 -663Call this Data point "C" and google map it:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5669+-113.7437(JAMID's location maps about 200 feet SWest of this data point)N928JP's location at JAMID includes an uncorrected altitude of 4,750 feet, 300 feet higher than and 4,166 feet horizontally distant from the Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 data point "B".Determine angle from JAMID to "B" using rise run:Rise: -300 feetRun: 4,166 feetFlown descent angle between JAMID and point "B" = -4.1Everybody understands that ADS-B can be terribly inaccurate, but when you add the expected +50' pressure correction to the 4,750' reported at JAMID, the data suggests that the pilot appears to be "on" at JAMID. Always remember the human side, and respect that a lot of people suffer greatly from a loss like this. With luck there will be a SD card data record to help in understanding. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. 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As any pilot knows, the altitudes reported by FlightAware are uncorrected pressure altitudes and do not reflect the corrected indicated barometric altitude that pilots reference for assigned altitudes, MDA, etc. The YouTube "Clown" commingled an half-assed apology with begging for $cash money$ be sent to him. At that point, runway or runway lighting were visible but not necessarily the thin grey stack in between. Oh, right--where IS the VDP on this approach? A witness quoted by the NTSB heard the engine noise increasing just prior to the impact.RIP. Couple years ago we hired an attractive young lady, a flight instructor, to fly Caravans at our single-pilot Pt.135 operation. E.g. All major components of the airplane remained on the rooftop. Flying time at 80 kts ground speed was just 16 sec, break out to tower. Ever heard of a displaced threshold? "Ducking under" wasn't still on the accident pilot's to do list by the time JAMID was reached. The falling droplets drag air down. It's true that 109' separation isn't a lot, but the outdated overhead view of the stack that google maps shows tends to make commenters here miss the red steel base structure and sampler's work platform at the very top in the more recent street view images. If she was trading altitude to maintain airspeed after a flameout, seems like it would be important to get an idea of what minimum airspeed should be maintained, knowing that the stacks were ahead.The TL:DR for the details shown below is that she was holding 89/88 knots airspeed in the 30 seconds or so before stack impact compared to 96 knots across the tater plant on 4 April's RW20 approach.If you were the C208 pilot and had adequate visual of the ground so near, would you have shallowed the altitude trade off and accepted a lower airspeed than 88 knots to squeak over the tater plant?------ Backup info ------To provide a reference on judging whether airspeed decayed in a manner different from what she would have flown normally (acknowledging the sink rates reported in the data), compare speeds by looking at the last two captured data points as she turned across the tater plant during the uneventful 4 April approach to RW20:Using track log data from:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220404/1318Z/KSLC/KBYIMon 09:52:44 AM 42.5539 -113.7523 271 83 96 4,675 -385Map pinned location of that data point:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5539+-113.7523Mon 09:53:05 AM 42.5501 -113.7611 219 87 100 4,475 -571Map pinned location of that data point:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5501+-113.7611(The 42.5501+-113.7611 location is approx 670 feet closer to the airfield than the struck stack. Solo/Missed Approach/Marginal Conditions/Challenging Airport = High StressIt's the perfect setup for one of those 'undiagnosed preexisting medical conditions' that have been making the rounds these days with athletes.The coroner's report should be interesting - condolences to her family. Juan Brown on the Blancolirio YouTube Channel mentions the icing conditions. I watched a podcast a few days ago discussing a similar fatal ditching (N16JR) in the Santa Monica area that happened in 2006, the NTSB determined that the occupants were not wearing shoulder harnesses (because they didn't have any) and died due to drowning with complications from blunt force trauma. Operating Certificate(s) Held: Commuter air carrier (135), Observation Facility, Elevation: KBYI,4143 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 1 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 8 knots / , 190, Departure Point: Salt Lake City, UT (SLC), Latitude, Longitude: 42.551433,-113.75969. Following a structural failure, a 1992 Mooney M20M crashed in Victoria, Minnesota, last Saturday (August 7, 2021), while it was approaching to land at Flying Cloud (KFCM) Airport in Minnesota. What people want to see is their own conjecture. It also involves the predicament of finding yourself hanging inverted in a very small space with waves surrounding your downed airplane. The previous day's BYI flight diverted to Twin Falls.2. Your top of stack AGL estimate is off somehow - the building roof would have to be 90 feet high. "I'm not sure why you are mentioning LPV minimums, because the RNAV (GPS) RWY 20 approach into BYI is just an LNAV category approach, not LPV. Anonymous Wednesday, December 21, . No, he did not fly away from the airport after declaring an emergency. As she descended she may have lost sight of the runway. The witness heard the engine increase in sound and saw the nose lift shortly before the airplane struck the smokestack and descend to the rooftop.". The "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" blanches, cooks, and mashes potatoes 24/7. Nevertheless, RIP to Brittney and condolences to her family and friends. As I mentioned in a comment above, the 4304' obstacle shown on the RWY 20 approach plate plan view is NOT any of the stacks at Gem State plant. But that stack never should have been there. In lieu of flowers, the Infanger family is welcoming donations for a scholarship fund in Brittneys honor. So the only problem left is not arresting the descent rate. But that's not our business to judge. The National Transportation Safety Board Aviation (NTSB) Accident Preliminary report said poor weather and flying low near a mountain may have impacted the Kekaha airplane crash that happened on . "blame it on the steam cloud" assigns no responsibility, no liability. She had a special gift for making everyone she met feel important, and her smile lit up every room. Succinct. Reply Delete. One correction for your analysis: The elevation of the stack she hit is 4256' MSL in the FAA's obstacle database.Using your calculation of the flight path elevation at the stack, applying the FAA's verified stack elevation revises your math to: 4,365' - 4,256' = 109'.The top of the stack is 109' below the flight path. To get the actual indicated altitude, you need to correct it with the local altimeter setting. she didn't fly into the stack, the steam cloud sucked her right into it by taking all her lift away. "B.S. I can't understand why this approach even exists. Stack is 100' AGL, 4,256' MSL per the obstruction database:16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285Full stack database discussion here:http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.html?showComment=1650113710197#c2541529799564513775. in a snow storm maybe she wasn't looking for the snake river? See 6:45 in the video: https://youtu.be/M6ev-hmvtag?t=405. Easy enough to fact check using Adsbexchange and the LiveAtc recording.Results:-Cleared for takeoff @7 minute mark on LiveAtc-ADS-B shows airborne by @23:08:23Z-Flies along coast, gets halfway to Malibu-No airspeed or altitude trouble so far-ADS-B shows a turnback starting @23:14:00-"I'd like to return" @14 minute mark LiveAtc-ADS-B speed & altitude degrading on the way back-Declares Emergency just before 16 minute mark -ATC offers "left base for runway 3" @17 minute mark-ADS-B shows crossing the pier @23:18:04Simple to listen to comm audio source files for yourself:https://www.liveatc.net/archive.phpThis accident's file is found by selecting:Date: 22 December, Time: 2300-2330Z, Feed: "KSMO Tower #1". Look at the Blancolirio video on YT, he shows where they were in relation to the runway. With such small margins, even little differences count. Fortunately, no one was hurt.The step up from the instruction/GA world to single-pilot 135 is huge. I will say that the analyses here have been very well thought out and thought provoking. 24 much safer and longer runway which I feel more comfortable with. Runway 20 has one. So are you going to tell me that's not enough to get a Caravan down and stopped? That full sequence of reports showing 6, 2 1/2, 1 1/2, 1. Where the airplane could've flown 20 feet further, then everyone may have walked away. )How far is the approach path above the smokestack? "why on God's green earth was she 100 feet AGL a half-mile from the runway" How about any number of reasons that many aircraft have crashed in VMC with the runway in sight: engine failure, icing, wind sheer, pilot incapacitation, etc. It was a 100% bound to happen eventuality.I'm heartbroken it happened to such a bright and lovely soul as Brittney. The relationship Brittney had with her mother was truly like no other. Apparently the mail must get through, despite the automated voice telling you "Minimums" and you don't have the runway. That's the only certainty we have at this stage about its position. You probably meant RWY 20. ATC videos on youtube removed dead air gaps in the audio and rammed the sequence together, creating the false impression that the emergency onset was immediately after takeoff. Give it up, she didn't bust minimums she got sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud she couldn't get out of in time.This is 100% on the potato plant. The people most hurt by these comments, at what is often the worst time of their lives, shouldnt have to see baseless or inaccurate opinions of strangers about why their loved one is gone.And I wonder how many actually follow up on final reports - as in reading the full final docket - to understand the real-life nature of how the holes in the cheese line up. The wind at the time of the crash was just so that the steam plume was pushing right down the line of the runway. The survey segment of the flight commenced about 14 km to the northwest of the airport and was conducted at a height of about 200 ft above . 560XL+ 4 fatal Connecticut. Though it adds six inches of headroom, the feature is virtually invisible from the . I wouldn't start speculating that they hit the silos, without proof, because those of us who live there see no indication that the silos or cooling towers were touched. "Sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud!" In all rear-bath floor plans, the 2023 model features a cathedral ceiling, which is a Newmar first. Rest easy. Pilots who flew this approach repeatedly should have realised the peril, and taken action. You sound like a true Ftard! Don't bust minimums, ladies and gents. It can be hard to determine your altitude based on just the runway light, she probably had very few references visually to go by. We have 789 CESSNA Aircraft For Sale. Think logically: If the roof could be seen and descended toward as if it was runway, the Snake river and railroad bridge would be expected to occupy that same view. She not only saw the best in people, she brought out the best in people. you think it's unreasonable for a pilot to descend to a standard 3.0 degree glidepath once they have the runway in sight?When the glidepath specified on the approach is 3.75 degrees, yes, yes I do. very sad. There were five aboard, the Private rated pilot and four passengers. Such a bad place for a 10 story tall obstruction :(, Here are 2 images of what ForeFlight synthetic vision would have shown at 4300' and 4560' (MDA) respectively https://photos.app.goo.gl/dHgeEAniT9PpWu3o7. Location: New England. There is something definitely sticking above the top of the chimney on a yellow pole coming from the cage.While it will be interesting to see if the GPS or WAAS signal was degraded for the GPS RWY 20 approach, the pilot should have been in visual conditions./ME. (Hot air usually rises!) The witness heard the engine increase in sound and saw the nose lift shortly before the airplane struck the smokestack and descend to the rooftop. The fully revealed circumstances are a huge cautionary tale. Family said "he was a great guy" Must of been a mechanical problem!" Whatever the case, I can't imagine the pain her family is going through. kathryn s report loss of control in flight cirrus sr22. Replies. The approach path passes just above the smokestack, and there's no vertical guidance because it's LNAV only. She applied power and nose up to go around but the steam cloud pulled her right into the stack.Or maybe you're smarter than the ntsb investigators right there at the scene interviewing witnesses and looking at the weather conditions and the runway and what happened? The collision smokestack is directly on centerline. Date: Saturday 29 May 2021: Time: 0.26639294624329: Type: Cessna 501 Citation I/SP: The pilot reported passing the initial approach fix, and about 4 minutes later reported a missed approach. How could anyone be up here, see Gods creation, and doubt His love? she had asked. 18. He then botched the landing by coming up short in the surf. Thanks for the correction, point taken. Good observation about first occurrence. He owns the minds of those fans and is working toward harvesting their donations in the times ahead. Ditching in a foot or two of water thats spilling onto the sand, as he appeared to do, is so much easier than ditching outside the breakers where you would encounter wave crests and troughs. Yes exactly. Notice how the un-guarded ladder portion below the guarded portion of the ladder above the mid-deck platform is angled as a result of the top of the caged portion of the upper ladder having been pushed to the left.Pre-accident street view shows ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/tPdJ43wFNooD2PUX8, Viewing from ground level by opening and swinging around in these views provides additional context: Street view looking at RW20 centerline from 7th street that can be spun around to face the other way:https://goo.gl/maps/Mv4KYwWvVj7FTW2s5Street view showing another side view of stacks, single stack that is the subject of ladder discussion is at the far right:https://goo.gl/maps/Jfy1KdpC4Yfyiwu77, ^^ Corrected link for pre-accident street view that shows yellow ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/CqTD5vsKPo3e2cK99. is quite a claim. Skipping to the end and resuming reading at the next to the last paragraph is recommended if you don't want to read all of the details.) There was a small plane crash in North Carolina on June 16, 2022. A local phenomena, such as a plant pumping massive amounts of moisture into the air under those conditions is going to produce significantly more of a condensation plume than it would on a drier day (as would be more typical in that region). There is no need to conflate the egregious errors in the case of N56KJ. She has participated in eight trans-continental air races, and together, they have flown to Alaska, Quebec, Belize, the Florida Keys and 2000 miles around Australia. KENEDY, Texas - According to a preliminary report, a single-engine Cessna 182 that crashed on Monday took off from New Braunfels National Airport in New Braunfels, Texas. Notice the visibility when looking at a distance horizontally in the 25 to 28 and 44 to 47 second portions of the video. ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 301345. Go back in your mommas basement and eat your Cheetos and watch SpongeBob. Additionally, the aircraft should have been approximately 100 feet to the right of the stacks if the needles/diamonds are centered and on the approach path. The plane is resting upside down pointing towards the probable point of impact about 90 feet away, with about a 190 degree counter clockwise rotation and flip supporting the left wing strike probably. A plausible explanation that in no way reflects poor airmanship. Confusingly, the approach plate says "VGSI and descent angles not coincident", but runway 20 does not have any sort of VGSI at all! I guarantee that the energy output that industrial plant is emitting into the atmosphere would rival the output of any heavy category aircraft. Three hours later, Atlanta Center instructed the pilot to maintain 7,300 feet and cleared him to . The FAA isn't in the habit of approving approaches that don't meet TERPS, so that is a given. Unless you are unable to. There are no obstruction clearance guarantees below the MDA. Yes, the N56KJ CVR transcript and the fact that the top of the tail was not cleared because "it will blow off" are important reminders of how far you can go wrong with decision making focused toward get-there-itis.Having comments on N56KJ closed is unfortunate. Brittney was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and served a mission in Birmingham, England from 2015-2017. We don't need to be paying for ILS equipment when RNAV approaches allow the same minimums with zero additional ground signal equipment at a fraction of the cost. She went on to graduate from ATP Flight School in Mesa, Arizona in 2019. ADSB data and Airport Surveillance Cameras are God Sends for looking into aircraft mishaps such as these. As-flown airspeeds of two different freight company C208's approaching the Gem stacks are interesting to compare.N585SA BYI RW20 C208 VFR approaches:4/15/2022 120 knot GS + 27009KT wind component4/26/2022 096 knot GS + 22011KT wind component4/27/2022 127 knot GS + 28005KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 VFR approach:4/04/2022 083 knot GS + 22009KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 IMC approach w/crash:4/13/2022 081 knot GS + 19008KT wind component. So using the very unscientific method of looking at the Foreflight 3D airport view to visualize a KBYI runway 30 approach at a standard 3.0 degree descent angle, it is clear that those stacks are pretty much directly in your path. She was WAY low to have hit those. The pilot was transported to a local hospital where their condition remains unknown. . Freight repositioning on ground after divert adds cost, hits schedule.3. 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